So you have the appearance of the photograph, you have the experiential knowledge of the viewer, and you have their own imagination, and it's that event that shapes the meaning of the photograph. This work incidence I think it's in many ways what I want to do is say let me take you on a walk, and we'll start here. And then as we're walking, I say oh look at that look at that over there look at this, and we take a walk together and when the walk ends that's the experience.